Posted by admin on 6 October 2023 04:24:54 PM (Edited by admin 7 months ago)
Hey everyone,

As you may have heard, Art Fight is currently undergoing a change in leadership. Takaia, who has been the owner of Art Fight for the last nine years, has made the decision to step down from this role and take on a support role behind the scenes. In her place, former admins Axel and classicturtle, will be stepping up as co-owners, alongside a third co-owner who will be introduced later on in the newspost.

Due to the ownership shift, Art Fight will be undergoing a series of changes in the upcoming months. Art Fight will be filed as an LLC, and will no longer be operating as a sole proprietorship. We have always been an entity that requires money to operate, but we will expand into focusing on things such as merch, sponsorships, and more site perks, to relieve the pressure for individual users to contribute financially.

Additionally, any monetary support provided to the site has been labeled as a donation up to now, and we apologize for the confusion this previous wording has caused. Art Fight is neither a charity nor is it legally classified as a non-profit entity. From this point onwards, what we previously called “donations” will instead be referred to as “contributions” to clear up and avoid any further confusion. The current donation page will be updated to reflect this in the coming weeks. 

We understand this change is a considerable one, and we’d like to address a few different aspects of the changes being made below.

Why did the administrators resign from staff during the fight?

On July 22nd, former admins Turtle and Axel resigned from the Art Fight team. Their reasons for doing so are as follows:

The site remained stagnant for years, and we were frustrated with the lack of paid, forward development. Although some smaller changes were made, we did not feel these changes were enough.

Financial transparency had broken down over the years.  The lack of communication to the staff team regarding financials attributed to this - even if it wasn’t done intentionally or maliciously.

As a result of this, we wanted to help the owner make the finances more transparent, oversee further expenses, and make sure that more of the money went into developing the site, rather than allowing the site to continue to stagnate. We weren’t given this opportunity, and this combined with the previous issues in communication led to feelings of frustration. Because of this, we no longer felt that we could continue working as volunteers with Art Fight unless there were considerable changes made, and we made the difficult decision to leave the team.

As admins, we did NOT have an issue with Takaia paying themself as the owner of Art Fight, and we sincerely believe people should be fairly compensated for the work that they do. While we understand there wasn’t ill intent behind anyone’s actions, the lack of transparency regarding financial issues and a lack of site development made us feel disjointed as a team and made it hard to perform our admin duties.

After multiple conversations about Art Fight and the future of the site, we have rejoined Art Fight staff upon reaching an agreement with Takaia to become two of the three new co-owners. We are excited for this opportunity to move forwards together and help Art Fight thrive!
As stated at the start, Takaia will be stepping back from her role as owner and will take on a support role for the site behind the scenes.  We will all continue to work together to support Art Fight and let it grow to its fullest potential.

We would also like to thank and apologize to the staff, especially those who continued to work during the end of the fight after the admins resigned, as we recognize the difficult position they were put into. Additionally, we would like to reiterate that harassment towards any involved individual is unwarranted and will not be tolerated. This includes the previous admins who stepped up to their positions after the current co-owners resigned as admins. They did so with the intent to help keep the site running, and they just did their best in a complicated situation. Please be understanding and respectful to all involved parties.

Any further harassment towards any involved individual for any reason will result in a ban.


Third Co-Owner✨

Our first big step in ensuring Art Fight’s stability is re-introducing Rainy back onto the team as the third Co-Owner. She has been an invaluable member of the Art Fight staff since 2015 and previously held the role of head admin, so we hope the community is as excited as we are to bring her back! Together we will be overseeing the site, its finances, and ensuring Art Fight’s growth safely as an equal entity.

Financials

Going forwards, we want to make an active effort to ensure there is transparency regarding Art Fight’s finances. With this in mind, we want to address some concerns regarding the past and present financial states of Art Fight as a whole. First and foremost, we do want to reiterate that Art Fight was a sole proprietorship. Takaia, as the owner, worked under this sole proprietorship for approximately $12/hr, which is far below living wage. As confirmed after review by the current co-owners, taxes (which we are unable to share publicly due to security and privacy concerns) were paid and accounted for on all of Art Fight’s income. While Art Fight will no longer be a sole proprietorship, we will still operate as an official business under an LLC.

All staff, at the time of applying and at the time of hiring, were aware of and agreed to the fact that their position was as a volunteer, and that they were not going to be receiving monetary compensation for their work. As of now, this will still be the case for all site and chat moderators, though we are open to exploring paid positions (both for moderators and for site developers, such as coders) sometime in the future.

Budget 2023 - 2024

While we begin planning for the site’s future years, we are taking into account the expected budget for 2023 and 2024.

We hope to release a news post specifically about this sometime in the coming months. This news post will include more information about Art Fight’s past and future financials, and details on our goals for the rest of 2023 and 2024. In addition to this, the financial goal bar will also return!

In the past, Art Fight has functioned entirely off of the generosity of volunteer site developers. But volunteer developers obviously cannot devote all their energy to fixing and updating the site for us. We plan to rely less on volunteer developers in the future, and allocate as much of our budget as we can to lowering server-side costs, which we can use to re-invest into additional, paid developer contracts. On that note, please give a warm welcome to stokori! Originally a volunteer developer, Stokori has rejoined the team, and will be transitioning into a paid developer role. 

Here are some of the things we want to implement this year and the coming year:

*This is by no means an exhaustive list, and is subject to change.
1. Hiring a paid developer, to help us do the following:

  • Improving overall site performance
  • Overhaul/improve current moderation tools
  • Implement new features for users and staff alike
2. Begin looking into merch, and more perks for site contributors
3. Preparing for a certain surprise to be released sometime during the winter season 👀

Feedback Forms

Like in the previous years, we want your feedback! There will be a general feedback form, as well as a UX feedback form. It isn’t required to fill these out, but we would definitely appreciate your input!

Art Fight 2023 Feedback Form
UX Feedback Form 
* The Art Fight 2024 Theme Poll will be released at a later date.

Before we conclude our news post however, we wanted to give you all a message from Art Fight’s former owner and founder:
I wanted to take a quick moment to apologize for communication deteriorating within the team towards the end of my time as owner of Art Fight. I never intended to let it break down like that, but good intentions don’t really excuse the fact that I let the team down. I also wanted to sincerely thank the staff who stayed behind to hold down the fort while things were sorted out at the end of the 2023 fight. You kept Art Fight alive, and I’m very grateful for that. I am, however, deeply sorry I put you in that position because I know how hard it was and I wish I hadn't put you through that.

As I’m stepping back and passing the helm to Rainy, Axel, and Turtle, I’m glad to be here to support them as they carry Art Fight into the future. I am endlessly grateful to ALL of the staff and users who supported myself and Art Fight through my time here. Thank you, everyone, for going on this adventure with me these past 9 years!
With that, we also wanted to thank you all for being patient with us as big changes happen behind the scenes.  We’re confident that Art Fight will continue to grow and we’re excited to see where things will go!




- classicturtle, Rainy, Axel

Edit (10/06/23): Hello! We noticed there were some questions about Takaia's future involvement with Art Fight, so we wanted to provide some clarification: 


  • Takaia's role as a staff member will exclusively be as a developer/coder for site features.
  • She is no longer involved in financials, staff decisions, or moderator actions.
  • As mentioned in the original newspost, we as now co-owners have access to Artfight's funds and can verify that the money from Art Fight's donations were not embezzled. More information regarding Art Fight's budget/financial situation will be provided in our upcoming budget newspost.

Comments (369)

DeeKay said:
man i got no idea whats going on anymore i just wanna fight art
Although I am uncomfortable that takaia will still be a cog in the machine I cant help but be even more discouraged that more people are leaving AF just because of them.. I understand your frustration but artfight honesty isn't about who owns what. It's about making art for your peers and friends.. 

You'll happily see me participate next year, although still hurt with many others with takaias choices
i wish y'all the best.
i love this game and want to see it persist. 
it's one of the few good websites remaining on the internet that isn't a god-forsaken social media app or choked with ads and being enshittified for shareholders.
Rip 
Sad to see people leave even after this. I can’t get mad at them, but it does make me sad to see fellow fighters go. 

Definitely interested in seeing how this site is going to develop from now on
mawbyte said:
Btw to those who are literally questioning if they are deleting or not, their site doesn't update from the front page

What the front page says: 


What is says on the post: 


Yes because deleting comments really helps you NOT look guilty. At this point you might as well refund everyone that donated last year because you STILL won't say where the money is going, how its spent and NOW how much of it is going to go into your pockets when you were "trying to become a non profit" literally in the years pass. This all just is really shady at this point. 
cant believe i just saw this!! thank you for updating us on this!! glad to know we got some better people to run this crazy thing!!
Just like many, I am absolutely uncomfortable with the fact that Takaia is staying, without investigation onto her fraud. I understand that she needed living expenses, what bothers me is how she got it. If she had said from the start that she needed it, I would have contributed with pleasure. It's the fact that the money I donated every year for alleged site updates didn't go there. If I knew from the start it was going to be split between site maintenance and Takaia's cost of living, I would have been okay. But I hate being lied to.

And honestly, the fact that she is staying, and being paid as well? Feels like a huge slap in the face for me. I can't speak for how all donators feels, but that's how I personally feel. I've donated (25+) every year I've participated, which is not a lot compared to some people, but it was still my money, and it was not used for what was said. I'd ask that you reconsider Takaia's position on the team, as many before me have commented.

If she stays, I'm pulling donations for sure. I don't know yet if I will stop participating, but I just can't understand why you're keeping her after what she's done. The least she could do is a real, heartfelt apology. Right now, she's not facing any consequences for several years of stealing donations. This is fraud, illegal, and you're lucky no one is pressing charges.

Bottom line is I'd be so much more comfortable knowing she's gone. You don't need her, there are plenty of developers out there I'm sure would be happy to help. Everything else you've written I'm happy with. 

I'm just not as optimistic about Takaia's stay. This is really disheartening to read, after all she's done.
Dorkface said:
The "UX Feedback Form" requires that you sign into Google in order to fill it out. Is that intentional?
Eggfruit said:
I understand all of these changes and why they are necessary for the site. Please don’t lose sight of what makes this place special. Please don’t introduce paywalls, excessive ads, money for getting priority in searches, and other decisions backed by greed over love. Art Fight is so, so special. Do what you need to do and nothing else
I'm a little apprehensive over the idea of 'site perks' being a motivator to contribute - I'm hoping that none of the features that we currently can use for free will become locked behind a paywall. 
The only thing that bothers a little bit is the fact that (as some people have said already) Takaia isn't going to apologize any time soon for what she's done. She could have said "some of the funds are going for myself since I'm working a lot on the site and it takes time". Instead, they just announce all of this without even saying a word about the topic that bothered people the most... They just say she's going to take a "support role behind the scenes". She still is on the team (in some way or another) and isn't going to apologize for it, even if she's no longer involved on important decisions nor in financial actions.

I'm glad that they are making changes for the better, I hope the situation improves after all of this. I really want this place to get better, I really love the community. But I feel like this isn't going to quell a lot of people's complaints about what happened.
happy that everything is all right once more now <3 thanks for the newspost!

ngl i'm looking forwrad to the winter surprise >:D 
memo_stardust Honestly when i saw that part i was rubbed the wrong way too ngl

But other than that, I can't really say much--- hopefully things get better in the future. We just have to see.
GarBlox said:
Good luck and thank you, new mods!