Posted by admin on 6 October 2023 04:24:54 PM (Edited by admin 7 months ago)
Hey everyone,

As you may have heard, Art Fight is currently undergoing a change in leadership. Takaia, who has been the owner of Art Fight for the last nine years, has made the decision to step down from this role and take on a support role behind the scenes. In her place, former admins Axel and classicturtle, will be stepping up as co-owners, alongside a third co-owner who will be introduced later on in the newspost.

Due to the ownership shift, Art Fight will be undergoing a series of changes in the upcoming months. Art Fight will be filed as an LLC, and will no longer be operating as a sole proprietorship. We have always been an entity that requires money to operate, but we will expand into focusing on things such as merch, sponsorships, and more site perks, to relieve the pressure for individual users to contribute financially.

Additionally, any monetary support provided to the site has been labeled as a donation up to now, and we apologize for the confusion this previous wording has caused. Art Fight is neither a charity nor is it legally classified as a non-profit entity. From this point onwards, what we previously called “donations” will instead be referred to as “contributions” to clear up and avoid any further confusion. The current donation page will be updated to reflect this in the coming weeks. 

We understand this change is a considerable one, and we’d like to address a few different aspects of the changes being made below.

Why did the administrators resign from staff during the fight?

On July 22nd, former admins Turtle and Axel resigned from the Art Fight team. Their reasons for doing so are as follows:

The site remained stagnant for years, and we were frustrated with the lack of paid, forward development. Although some smaller changes were made, we did not feel these changes were enough.

Financial transparency had broken down over the years.  The lack of communication to the staff team regarding financials attributed to this - even if it wasn’t done intentionally or maliciously.

As a result of this, we wanted to help the owner make the finances more transparent, oversee further expenses, and make sure that more of the money went into developing the site, rather than allowing the site to continue to stagnate. We weren’t given this opportunity, and this combined with the previous issues in communication led to feelings of frustration. Because of this, we no longer felt that we could continue working as volunteers with Art Fight unless there were considerable changes made, and we made the difficult decision to leave the team.

As admins, we did NOT have an issue with Takaia paying themself as the owner of Art Fight, and we sincerely believe people should be fairly compensated for the work that they do. While we understand there wasn’t ill intent behind anyone’s actions, the lack of transparency regarding financial issues and a lack of site development made us feel disjointed as a team and made it hard to perform our admin duties.

After multiple conversations about Art Fight and the future of the site, we have rejoined Art Fight staff upon reaching an agreement with Takaia to become two of the three new co-owners. We are excited for this opportunity to move forwards together and help Art Fight thrive!
As stated at the start, Takaia will be stepping back from her role as owner and will take on a support role for the site behind the scenes.  We will all continue to work together to support Art Fight and let it grow to its fullest potential.

We would also like to thank and apologize to the staff, especially those who continued to work during the end of the fight after the admins resigned, as we recognize the difficult position they were put into. Additionally, we would like to reiterate that harassment towards any involved individual is unwarranted and will not be tolerated. This includes the previous admins who stepped up to their positions after the current co-owners resigned as admins. They did so with the intent to help keep the site running, and they just did their best in a complicated situation. Please be understanding and respectful to all involved parties.

Any further harassment towards any involved individual for any reason will result in a ban.


Third Co-Owner✨

Our first big step in ensuring Art Fight’s stability is re-introducing Rainy back onto the team as the third Co-Owner. She has been an invaluable member of the Art Fight staff since 2015 and previously held the role of head admin, so we hope the community is as excited as we are to bring her back! Together we will be overseeing the site, its finances, and ensuring Art Fight’s growth safely as an equal entity.

Financials

Going forwards, we want to make an active effort to ensure there is transparency regarding Art Fight’s finances. With this in mind, we want to address some concerns regarding the past and present financial states of Art Fight as a whole. First and foremost, we do want to reiterate that Art Fight was a sole proprietorship. Takaia, as the owner, worked under this sole proprietorship for approximately $12/hr, which is far below living wage. As confirmed after review by the current co-owners, taxes (which we are unable to share publicly due to security and privacy concerns) were paid and accounted for on all of Art Fight’s income. While Art Fight will no longer be a sole proprietorship, we will still operate as an official business under an LLC.

All staff, at the time of applying and at the time of hiring, were aware of and agreed to the fact that their position was as a volunteer, and that they were not going to be receiving monetary compensation for their work. As of now, this will still be the case for all site and chat moderators, though we are open to exploring paid positions (both for moderators and for site developers, such as coders) sometime in the future.

Budget 2023 - 2024

While we begin planning for the site’s future years, we are taking into account the expected budget for 2023 and 2024.

We hope to release a news post specifically about this sometime in the coming months. This news post will include more information about Art Fight’s past and future financials, and details on our goals for the rest of 2023 and 2024. In addition to this, the financial goal bar will also return!

In the past, Art Fight has functioned entirely off of the generosity of volunteer site developers. But volunteer developers obviously cannot devote all their energy to fixing and updating the site for us. We plan to rely less on volunteer developers in the future, and allocate as much of our budget as we can to lowering server-side costs, which we can use to re-invest into additional, paid developer contracts. On that note, please give a warm welcome to stokori! Originally a volunteer developer, Stokori has rejoined the team, and will be transitioning into a paid developer role. 

Here are some of the things we want to implement this year and the coming year:

*This is by no means an exhaustive list, and is subject to change.
1. Hiring a paid developer, to help us do the following:

  • Improving overall site performance
  • Overhaul/improve current moderation tools
  • Implement new features for users and staff alike
2. Begin looking into merch, and more perks for site contributors
3. Preparing for a certain surprise to be released sometime during the winter season 👀

Feedback Forms

Like in the previous years, we want your feedback! There will be a general feedback form, as well as a UX feedback form. It isn’t required to fill these out, but we would definitely appreciate your input!

Art Fight 2023 Feedback Form
UX Feedback Form 
* The Art Fight 2024 Theme Poll will be released at a later date.

Before we conclude our news post however, we wanted to give you all a message from Art Fight’s former owner and founder:
I wanted to take a quick moment to apologize for communication deteriorating within the team towards the end of my time as owner of Art Fight. I never intended to let it break down like that, but good intentions don’t really excuse the fact that I let the team down. I also wanted to sincerely thank the staff who stayed behind to hold down the fort while things were sorted out at the end of the 2023 fight. You kept Art Fight alive, and I’m very grateful for that. I am, however, deeply sorry I put you in that position because I know how hard it was and I wish I hadn't put you through that.

As I’m stepping back and passing the helm to Rainy, Axel, and Turtle, I’m glad to be here to support them as they carry Art Fight into the future. I am endlessly grateful to ALL of the staff and users who supported myself and Art Fight through my time here. Thank you, everyone, for going on this adventure with me these past 9 years!
With that, we also wanted to thank you all for being patient with us as big changes happen behind the scenes.  We’re confident that Art Fight will continue to grow and we’re excited to see where things will go!




- classicturtle, Rainy, Axel

Edit (10/06/23): Hello! We noticed there were some questions about Takaia's future involvement with Art Fight, so we wanted to provide some clarification: 


  • Takaia's role as a staff member will exclusively be as a developer/coder for site features.
  • She is no longer involved in financials, staff decisions, or moderator actions.
  • As mentioned in the original newspost, we as now co-owners have access to Artfight's funds and can verify that the money from Art Fight's donations were not embezzled. More information regarding Art Fight's budget/financial situation will be provided in our upcoming budget newspost.

Comments (369)

(wouhou I finished translating I'm back from the dead guys)

I've only been here a few months. I don't really know the whole story since obviously people don't all agree in the comments, but if I have to draw a conclusion, it looks a bit complicated... Personally, as a newcomer to the site without much coulisses information or other stuff, the only thing that bothered me a bit during July and a bit before was the fact that the site took a very long time to load (because of the number of people on the site?) It was a little pain because sometimes it would crash and I'd lose everything I'd done :/

That's all, good luck for the future!
Managlyph Don't apologize, you and everyone who donated expected to participate in what was meant to be a fun event for people to have fun and enjoy themselves. They're the ones that handled things the wrong way, so don't put the burden on yourself.
To be honest, my main reason for donating was to appear on the banner, and even after appearing I wanted to keep donating to support the site. But this was a bit too uncomfortable... I'm sorry.
aish1t3x3 I get where you're coming from, but Takaia is actually disabled and can't work, which is probably the reason why she used artfight money to pay for her own living expenses. However, she failed to be transparent about it from the beginning, breaching trust. You absolutely have a good reason for not wanting to put any more money into the website.
It just didn’t feel the same this year, kinda disappointed ngl. Also I’m sorry but ima be real I do not care if Takia wasn’t making a living wage, I am barely making enough to buy food at school as a part time waitress but I still donate to the site every once in a while, and I was under the impression that the money was going to help the site become a better place, not just giving money to some random stranger that doesn’t wanna get a job. I’m 15 and I have a Job, so there’s no reason why takia couldn’t get one. She knew full well what she was doing and u guys are lucky that a majority of players are either inactive or they’re younger/don’t understand how serious this is. I am not donating anything to some grown woman online, I’m just not. I’m donating to a game that I enjoy playing and participating in and it’s deeply disappointing how much the severity of this situation is diminished in this news post. Not only was there no direct apology from Takia, but she is literally still on the staff team and the rest of the staff literally excused her stealing donations just because she’s one of many people struggling to make a living. Guess what, she’s not special. Everyone struggles to survive and that’s just how life is and it goes to show how selfish people can be.
puckbun said:
yikes :D
i can't read but these comments seem angry is there something i'm missing here?? 
artfight yall are soooo lucky so many people dont understand the severity of this
hah, wow, yeah, this looks bad.

"sorry we messed up by calling them donations, we won't do that anymore." -- not an adequate response. takaia "taking a step back" is not an adequate response. people who gave money under the impression that it was going directly to the site are owed much more than a handwave and "oh, well, she didn't make a living wage so it's okay, she can keep it". she did not even apologize for misleading people (unless you want to claim that her apology for a "communication breakdown" is sufficient -- she doesn't even acknowledge that the "communication issue" was actually about money.)

big "the police investigated themselves and determined there was no wrongdoing" energy.
I have mixed feelings about this. While I am excited for all of these positive changes, including an official change of ownership, I am wary about Takaia still being allowed on the team. It feels like a slap on the wrist more than anything else. Alas, I can't really do much as a random internet stranger. I just hope this decision was not made lightly!
Yay! :D
HoneyGhost Is your definition of "immature" people politely voicing their concern at a person who embezzled money still being allowed to just be part of the team with no consequences? No way twelve year olds are the ones complaining about misappropriation
albinosquirrels

Do you seriously think people complaining about embezzlement don't care about the embezzlement that CEOs do? Do you also think the average person can fix it be being annoyed and writing a comment on the internet? People got their money stolen, why does it bother you that much? 
I've seen rumors of a second art fight in the winter. I don't know if this is what the owners are planning but I'd be down if that's the case! As someone with a full time job one month isn't nearly enough time to do as much art as I'd like. Even if it's not a full on event with teams/points, just having a period of time where we can simply gift art for the heck of it would be amazing! Like a little Christmas event. I'm just throwing my thoughts out there haha 😊
Christ almighty some of the responses to this post are so immature, are all these folks twelve or something? Takaia still being a part of the team isn't inherently bad. I'm appreciative of the transparency here and excited for the future!! Hopefully people will actually be less immature once the budget post is out <3