Posted by admin on 14 June 2024 12:08:16 PM
Hello Artfighters,

Based on staff discussion and user feedback, we have made adjustments to the rules regarding suggestive themes. The edited rules can be found here.

   First and foremost, we’d like to clarify the reason that the changes to our suggestive themes filter had been made, specifically the section related to removing fetish art from the site, even if tagged under suggestive themes.

   Previously, we have had issues with a certain subset of users intentionally drawing art for (or requesting art from) unsuspecting and non-consenting users, some of whom were minors, that contained fetish art. This is called “fetish mining,” a practice wherein a user intentionally ropes another into participating in fetish works without the other user’s knowledge and consent. In order to combat this and reduce mod strain, we decided to remove fetish works from the “allowed” list under suggestive themes.

   Ultimately, after careful consideration of user feedback as well as several rounds of internal review, we decided that the removal of all fetish works was not going to help us combat this issue. Instead, it led to more uncertainty (as it is difficult to define what isn’t/is a fetish when it comes to suggestive work), as well as more moderator strain due to needing to delete all prior attacks/characters involving fetish. Instead, we have edited the filtering guide to once again allow fetishes, with the caveat that any works have to be non-penetrative (i.e. no people/objects are allowed to enter the body), cannot involve ageplay, consent play, or bodily fluids/waste, and MUST be filtered under suggestive themes. For those affected by moderator action following the previously made changes, you are free to reupload your characters so long as the works they are involved in keep in mind our guidelines. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused!

   Additionally, we have also added General Rule 11 to combat fetish mining. It reads as follows:


  • 11. Fetish mining, which involves soliciting fetish art without the knowledge and consent of the user involved, is a bannable offense.

User Questions

1. What is considered fetish art? How does staff determine what is/isn’t fetish?


  • Fetish art consists of content that is intended to provide sexual gratification to the viewer/artist via a specific scenario/object.  The artwork may or may not initially appear “SFW” to someone who is not aware of said fetish. Regardless, if any content is intended to satisfy a particular fetish, it MUST be filtered under suggestive themes.

2. Are drawings of trans characters or characters who do not conform to gender norms considered fetish art?


  • No. Trans characters and gender non-conforming characters are not inherently fetishistic and would never need a sexual themes filter on this basis alone.  We have been and always will be an LGBTQ+ positive and friendly space. We care deeply about making other LGBTQ+ folks comfortable in all of Art Fight's spaces and ask that if you see any homophobic, transphobic, or other forms of discriminatory content on-site to please report it or contact a moderator about it as soon as possible.

3. Are drawings of fat characters considered fetish art?


  • No. Drawings of fat characters on their own are not inherently fetishistic and will not be considered fetish art. The same goes for any body type, whether exaggerated cartoonishly or not. The initial wording of “over-exaggerated proportions” was intended to refer to fetish art, not cartoonish works or different body types. We recognize the initial wording was poor, and it has since been removed.

4. Will I get banned if I unintentionally create fetish art?


  • No. We only ban for fetish mining if we are sure, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that it is both intentional and targeting minors or non-consenting adults. Users who have unintentionally appealed to a fetish will not be punished. For fetish characters needing moderator action, such as those without a suggestive themes filter or characters participating in fetishes that are disallowed on Art Fight, you would simply be alerted to the changes made by a moderator after the necessary actions were taken.
  • If you have any specific questions about particular characters or fetishes, feel free to DM a moderator that is okay with receiving questions about suggestive content.
Other Updates


  • A minor update has been made to the phrasing regarding NSFW content involving feral characters. Previously, the text had stated: “This includes characters who are sapient, alien creatures/animals, or monsters/fictional creatures.” This text was intended to specify that ANY feral creature, regardless of being made-up or real, couldn’t be drawn in suggestive or explicit situations. Due to confusion regarding these rules, we have altered it to read: “This also includes fictional or made-up animals.”

Additionally, we’ve made some minor changes to the following rules:

  • General Rule 7: Specified that comments are included
  • Upload Rule 1: Added additional bullet point
  • Upload Rule 3: Added additional bullet point regarding uncredited photography
  • Upload Rule 5: Specified policy on smaller creators
  • Upload Rule 6: Clarified that characters based on current real life tragic events are not allowed
  • Spirit of Art Fight Rule 6: Clarified that "point farming" is not allowed
  • Filtering/Attack Guides: We're currently working on updating visuals and removing old/inaccurate images from our guides


   We acknowledge the unfortunate timing of this newpost. We’ve been actively working on these changes throughout the week, and believe it'd be ideal to sort everything out on-site before the stream so as to not confuse the influx of users that become active once the theme has been revealed. We understand the importance of this issue, and want as many people as possible to see the changes made, so we will be linking back to these updates in the next few newsposts to ensure that all users are well aware of the changes made.

Comments (280)

Vynxia said:
Im very glad that mods listened to user feedback in regards to rolling back the suggestive content changes! My peers and I had a hunch that the actual problem that was meant to be addressed was some bad actors fetish mining from people without consent, which as was mentioned by several people is its own problem apart from just allowing kinky or suggestive art. I think this is deffinitley a better course being taken than just outright removing a whole genre of content that has otherwise been allowed in the past and putting a lot of strain on everyone right before the event!
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Thank you so much for this update post, it's honestly exactly what I was hoping for in a best-case scenario. I'm very glad to see that feedback was listened to and that we got a post dedicated to this topic, rather than tying it to the upcoming theme reveal which i was concerned might happen. I do wish that this hadn't had to happen in the first place - I think it may be worth getting mods with more experience in suggestive art to hopefully have a more balanced view - but I'm glad that this ended up giving us more clear ruling than we had in place before.

The one thing I find strange in the rules is that fetishes "involving the insertion of people/objects into the body" are not allowed. I assume this is meant to avoid depictions of penetration, but as it's written now it implies that vore isn't allowed, which is a strange line to draw IMO? I'd reconsider that one, but otherwise the guidelines on disallowed fetish art are very reasonable.

I also think that working on write-in filters should still be in the site's plans - it'd be useful for not only suggestive content, but sensitive content and body horror as well. But overall, a lot of stress has been taken off of me with this news post. Can't wait for the event to start!
Kirudon said:
Good clarification, thank you!
Always nice to see staff listen to feedback. I still have some...concerns, but this was definitely my biggest one
saw2goth said:
Thank you for taking the time to listen to our concerns and take them on board!! 
Thank you staff for clarifying, updating things, and listening to people's concerns <3
Liliez said:
Adding another W to the millions I’ve seen 😂 
Thank you for listening to your users and changing/clarifying the rules!!
I'm beyond relieved to see the ban has been walked back and replaced with a much more clear and justified rule about fetish mining. It's good to see the new people running the site are willing to listen to feedback and act quickly to make the necessary fixes.
Very based thank you for actually listening to us 🙏🙏
truly this is a wild venue for fetish art anyway. ethically dubious to be searching for fetish art on a website where the impetus is free art trading. I really feel like that people should have to PAY people for sex work. It just feels kinda icky that it's on this website at all, but I know trying to regulate NSFW is like trying to nail jello to a tree. There's never any perfect solutions
Aahh ty for actually listening to user feedback!! W artfight
Oh thanks for fixing this :) ily AF
Good on you guys to take action