Posted by admin on 6 October 2023 04:24:54 PM (Edited by admin 7 months ago)
Hey everyone,

As you may have heard, Art Fight is currently undergoing a change in leadership. Takaia, who has been the owner of Art Fight for the last nine years, has made the decision to step down from this role and take on a support role behind the scenes. In her place, former admins Axel and classicturtle, will be stepping up as co-owners, alongside a third co-owner who will be introduced later on in the newspost.

Due to the ownership shift, Art Fight will be undergoing a series of changes in the upcoming months. Art Fight will be filed as an LLC, and will no longer be operating as a sole proprietorship. We have always been an entity that requires money to operate, but we will expand into focusing on things such as merch, sponsorships, and more site perks, to relieve the pressure for individual users to contribute financially.

Additionally, any monetary support provided to the site has been labeled as a donation up to now, and we apologize for the confusion this previous wording has caused. Art Fight is neither a charity nor is it legally classified as a non-profit entity. From this point onwards, what we previously called “donations” will instead be referred to as “contributions” to clear up and avoid any further confusion. The current donation page will be updated to reflect this in the coming weeks. 

We understand this change is a considerable one, and we’d like to address a few different aspects of the changes being made below.

Why did the administrators resign from staff during the fight?

On July 22nd, former admins Turtle and Axel resigned from the Art Fight team. Their reasons for doing so are as follows:

The site remained stagnant for years, and we were frustrated with the lack of paid, forward development. Although some smaller changes were made, we did not feel these changes were enough.

Financial transparency had broken down over the years.  The lack of communication to the staff team regarding financials attributed to this - even if it wasn’t done intentionally or maliciously.

As a result of this, we wanted to help the owner make the finances more transparent, oversee further expenses, and make sure that more of the money went into developing the site, rather than allowing the site to continue to stagnate. We weren’t given this opportunity, and this combined with the previous issues in communication led to feelings of frustration. Because of this, we no longer felt that we could continue working as volunteers with Art Fight unless there were considerable changes made, and we made the difficult decision to leave the team.

As admins, we did NOT have an issue with Takaia paying themself as the owner of Art Fight, and we sincerely believe people should be fairly compensated for the work that they do. While we understand there wasn’t ill intent behind anyone’s actions, the lack of transparency regarding financial issues and a lack of site development made us feel disjointed as a team and made it hard to perform our admin duties.

After multiple conversations about Art Fight and the future of the site, we have rejoined Art Fight staff upon reaching an agreement with Takaia to become two of the three new co-owners. We are excited for this opportunity to move forwards together and help Art Fight thrive!
As stated at the start, Takaia will be stepping back from her role as owner and will take on a support role for the site behind the scenes.  We will all continue to work together to support Art Fight and let it grow to its fullest potential.

We would also like to thank and apologize to the staff, especially those who continued to work during the end of the fight after the admins resigned, as we recognize the difficult position they were put into. Additionally, we would like to reiterate that harassment towards any involved individual is unwarranted and will not be tolerated. This includes the previous admins who stepped up to their positions after the current co-owners resigned as admins. They did so with the intent to help keep the site running, and they just did their best in a complicated situation. Please be understanding and respectful to all involved parties.

Any further harassment towards any involved individual for any reason will result in a ban.


Third Co-Owner✨

Our first big step in ensuring Art Fight’s stability is re-introducing Rainy back onto the team as the third Co-Owner. She has been an invaluable member of the Art Fight staff since 2015 and previously held the role of head admin, so we hope the community is as excited as we are to bring her back! Together we will be overseeing the site, its finances, and ensuring Art Fight’s growth safely as an equal entity.

Financials

Going forwards, we want to make an active effort to ensure there is transparency regarding Art Fight’s finances. With this in mind, we want to address some concerns regarding the past and present financial states of Art Fight as a whole. First and foremost, we do want to reiterate that Art Fight was a sole proprietorship. Takaia, as the owner, worked under this sole proprietorship for approximately $12/hr, which is far below living wage. As confirmed after review by the current co-owners, taxes (which we are unable to share publicly due to security and privacy concerns) were paid and accounted for on all of Art Fight’s income. While Art Fight will no longer be a sole proprietorship, we will still operate as an official business under an LLC.

All staff, at the time of applying and at the time of hiring, were aware of and agreed to the fact that their position was as a volunteer, and that they were not going to be receiving monetary compensation for their work. As of now, this will still be the case for all site and chat moderators, though we are open to exploring paid positions (both for moderators and for site developers, such as coders) sometime in the future.

Budget 2023 - 2024

While we begin planning for the site’s future years, we are taking into account the expected budget for 2023 and 2024.

We hope to release a news post specifically about this sometime in the coming months. This news post will include more information about Art Fight’s past and future financials, and details on our goals for the rest of 2023 and 2024. In addition to this, the financial goal bar will also return!

In the past, Art Fight has functioned entirely off of the generosity of volunteer site developers. But volunteer developers obviously cannot devote all their energy to fixing and updating the site for us. We plan to rely less on volunteer developers in the future, and allocate as much of our budget as we can to lowering server-side costs, which we can use to re-invest into additional, paid developer contracts. On that note, please give a warm welcome to stokori! Originally a volunteer developer, Stokori has rejoined the team, and will be transitioning into a paid developer role. 

Here are some of the things we want to implement this year and the coming year:

*This is by no means an exhaustive list, and is subject to change.
1. Hiring a paid developer, to help us do the following:

  • Improving overall site performance
  • Overhaul/improve current moderation tools
  • Implement new features for users and staff alike
2. Begin looking into merch, and more perks for site contributors
3. Preparing for a certain surprise to be released sometime during the winter season πŸ‘€

Feedback Forms

Like in the previous years, we want your feedback! There will be a general feedback form, as well as a UX feedback form. It isn’t required to fill these out, but we would definitely appreciate your input!

Art Fight 2023 Feedback Form
UX Feedback Form 
* The Art Fight 2024 Theme Poll will be released at a later date.

Before we conclude our news post however, we wanted to give you all a message from Art Fight’s former owner and founder:
I wanted to take a quick moment to apologize for communication deteriorating within the team towards the end of my time as owner of Art Fight. I never intended to let it break down like that, but good intentions don’t really excuse the fact that I let the team down. I also wanted to sincerely thank the staff who stayed behind to hold down the fort while things were sorted out at the end of the 2023 fight. You kept Art Fight alive, and I’m very grateful for that. I am, however, deeply sorry I put you in that position because I know how hard it was and I wish I hadn't put you through that.

As I’m stepping back and passing the helm to Rainy, Axel, and Turtle, I’m glad to be here to support them as they carry Art Fight into the future. I am endlessly grateful to ALL of the staff and users who supported myself and Art Fight through my time here. Thank you, everyone, for going on this adventure with me these past 9 years!
With that, we also wanted to thank you all for being patient with us as big changes happen behind the scenes.  We’re confident that Art Fight will continue to grow and we’re excited to see where things will go!




- classicturtle, Rainy, Axel

Edit (10/06/23): Hello! We noticed there were some questions about Takaia's future involvement with Art Fight, so we wanted to provide some clarification: 


  • Takaia's role as a staff member will exclusively be as a developer/coder for site features.
  • She is no longer involved in financials, staff decisions, or moderator actions.
  • As mentioned in the original newspost, we as now co-owners have access to Artfight's funds and can verify that the money from Art Fight's donations were not embezzled. More information regarding Art Fight's budget/financial situation will be provided in our upcoming budget newspost.

Comments (369)

First off I want to thank the admins and moderators for doing their best to hold the fort down and giving us as much transparency as they reasonably could regarding the matter. I know this has been a difficult process for everyone involved, especially the community, but I am happy to see a positive resolution to the matter. I trust the decisions made here by the owners and look forward to participating in ArtFight next year.

I do want to briefly touch on the fact Takaia is staying on the team as a developer (I know it was kept vague at first, I’ll get onto why I feel that is in a moment). I’m aware there’s been a lot of pushback regarding Takaia remaining in the team, and I understand the frustration. Given the magnitude of the scandal itself, I wouldn’t blame anyone if they wanted Takaia off the team permanently. But my thought process was that their hands were tied legally. If Axel, Turtle and Rainy were going to become the new owners, then Takaia would have to remain on the team in some way, shape or form. It’s why I didn’t bother commenting about the delay regarding this post. Legal matters are no joke and this is another example. It’s almost never absolutist for one side, even though we may want it to be.

On that note, here are my thoughts on Takaia staying in the team. Yes, I do think she should have stepped down as owner and I’m glad she did so. I think it may have been better if she stepped away from ArtFight period given how radioactive her name is now. But honestly, as long as she isn’t anywhere near finances, I’m fine with her staying on the team.

Regardless, what’s done is done and now it’s time for us to move forward. I’ll see y’all in ArtFight 2024!
I appreciate the edits added at the bottom!! I think clarity and transparency about the site will be key going forward.
Ok, folks, let's calm down. We know what the ex-owner's doing now. Curious about the money not being embezzled thing!
Pryuri said:
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Nursey said:
erm,, what the gloog
Why are the comments always weird? Get wormed
   
chesse20
Considering the type of content he was a fan of was stuff pertaining to dead bodies I do not think he should be defending art fight’s staff nor friends with multiple moderators and promoted on their pages as friends or theirs, including by the ex owner. That’s all I’m saying. 

This wasn’t supposed to be a debate about whether or not the content is right or wrong, I’m not debating people on their opinions. I’m saying it’s highly inappropriate for the owner to have him as a friend and for him to very openly defend them

Your opinion is your opinion. This isn’t the place to argue about that. I’m trying to say that from a professional standpoint this is incredibly messed up.
beta__ said:
is it fair for me to say that the comment section devolved into a war of some sorts?

Why are people defending proship in the comments now what’s going on this is utterly insane
chesse20 it's not "toxic" to be concerned about where monetary contributions are going; people are asking for transparency.
dykitten said:
Me: artfight wouldn’t be able to run if the owner (who handles the server costs) at the time was literally homeless
y’all: THATS NOT AN EXCUSE

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I want to reiterate that financial transparency was something that should have been done, yes. I said that in my comment. My point is it’s ridiculous to act like Takaia is a bad person over that and should have been removed for *that reason alone*. I’m going to write that again so it sticks. Takaia should not have been removed from the team entirely SOLELY for a miscommunication around what the donation costs were for. That’s all
this is a mess. also not ppl defending predatory ships in the comments lmfao
All these points sound like steps in the right direction and I'm still excited for next year's Artfight, but I can't help but still feel sour about Takaia being kept around. Not only did they make off with thousands in "donation" money by refusing to say anything on where they were going, they get to stay with pay. Of course I'll never know what contributions she makes to the site but this feels?? Really inappropriate, for lack of a better term.

"You committed mass donator fraud, but you can stay, just not as owner. Also you get paid. <3" Low wage or not, it feels ?????

Good luck to all the new staff and to the future of Artfight, but I think the decision to keep Takaia around should be reconsidered. :/
You all in the comments were paying for premium benefits so that people would draw your charcters more often on the site; why are people complaining? They got their moneys worth in art and if you look at the site for the past few years its worked perfectly fine. Who cares if the owner kept a few thousand you don't know what sort of medical issues they might have had. The money they took could have only helped them pay for rent too. People need to stop being so angry and toxic online.
Wemmerz said:
Where’s the money, Lebowski?
Where’s the money, Lebowski?
Where’s the FUCKING MONEY SHITHEAD?