yeah i agree with a lot of other people in that if you want to ban specific things from the site then whatever, it's your call, but "kink" is not specific. there is a huge overlap between things that people draw for entirely aesthetic or other non-sexual reasons and things people draw because they get their rocks off to it and my concern is how this rule is going to be enforced. at what point is something Sexy Enough that it becomes "kinky"? the site already has pretty robust rules in place for tagging/filtering content and i don't really think this was a necessary change.

I want to second what the commenter below said:

"suggestive content being allowable basically means """vanilla""" attractions like thighs being disproportionate will be allowable but something more "weird" like feet will not be allowed to be exaggerated which just feels like a short-sighted attack on alternative expressions of attraction?"

This is pretty much what I was thinking, but put into much clearer words. This is exactly what the new ruling is - deeming that some artistic expressions of sexuality are allowed, and some are not, even if there isn't a material difference between them [ie, neither of them violate the previous rule of "no explicit depictions of sex"]. I hope that someone at the mod team can understand how upsetting this is to some queer users such as myself. I don't want Artfight to become another place where my art and expression is policed based on vibes/what the people in charge think is "gross." I get enough of that IRL.

The only way I can see "clearly appealing to fetish" being an applicable rule is if that's just shorthand for that-weird-stuff-on-deviantart-lolol when like. Okay so people who have fetishes/kinks for mundane stuff just aren't going to be affected?

 What about the wonderbread guy. How do you differentiate between a skunk character who stinks for the lols vs... yknow.

It's just completely uninforcable, and what's worse is suggestive content being allowable basically means """vanilla""" attractions like thighs being disproportionate will be allowable but something more "weird" like feet will not be allowed to be exaggerated which just feels like a short-sighted attack on alternative expressions of attraction?

I don't really have a horse in this race, I've never and will never use artfight for suggestive stuff cause that's just not how I roll but it's sad to see a rule implemented that is more of a virtue signal than something that can be reasonable inforced :(

along with what everyone else has said on the fetish/kink thing, i also think the "words referring to sexual content" thing can be more specific too. i think crude/dirty jokes are funny but don't wanna accidentally say something or have an oc say something that'll get me banned 

About the rules changes: So heavy gore is allowed, but SFW fetish gear is not? Please. Don‘t hide your prudery behind „protecting minors“. It‘s not about the children. That‘s what the filtering system is for in the first place, why not let us use it for this too?

anybody in this comment section smoke weed

Digital_Space  you do realize there are maturity filters that hide fetish art/characters from minors right

Gang, kids are also on the site. There's a reason why they're trying to ban kink/fetish shit.

The new content guidelines are extremely disappointing and frustrating. How are you going to allow suggestive content, but at the same time ban kink/fetish? Am I allowed to draw thin characters in sexy outfits, but not fat characters, because attraction to fat people is seen as abnormal and fetishistic? I've seen disabled artists get called fetishists for drawing pinups of disabled characters, are only abled characters allowed to be suggestive now? This feels like an extremely short-sighted, reactionary move for a site with a large queer userbase. So much of queer sexuality is labelled as kink/fetish because it doesn't fit the cishet "norm." 

Even for artists who are drawing kink/fetish art, as long as they're filtering it, I don't see the issue. Why can someone draw a character in an outfit that emphasizes their breasts, and that's fine under a suggestive filter, but drawing attention to a character's stomach, mouth, etc is banned? What is the material difference here, besides that one is considered normal to be attracted to? It's the most blatant double standard.

This is such a regressive content guideline to pull out, and it stings all the more to do it during pride month. Please reconsider this rule change. I was so excited for Artfight this year, but this has made me feel so unwelcome.

[Edited to correct typo]

uh

though yes generally i agree with ppl regarding the issue with... restrictions using terms as subjective and broad as fetish, fetish gear, overly-exaggerated proportions... yea

Can't wait!!!  

np

beta__ magpierrot

This has been fixed! Thank you for pointing that out 

they fixed the trello link