Keileon right? Really everyone on this thread is reiterating discourse from like, years to decades ago… I mean, there are still many people who think all furries are zoophiles so it’s not a far cry unfortunately :(

i also like to play and draw 

I'm just flabbergasted that people think petplay is equivalent to zoophilia.

celestia Then you’re having an entirely different conversation to the rest of us. We’re saying, the guidelines are too vague because FETISH as a concept and a categorisation is too vague, due to the massive overlap of fetishes and perfectly innocuous subject matter, and people want to know where they stand in terms of their security on ArtFight. We are literally saying that we are more than happy to filter our content, we WANT TO — we just want to know what stuff has to be filtered and what doesn’t, because right now, it is completely arbitrary and up to the mods to determine what is and isn’t “fetishistic”. 

Use your content filters. Use your image filters, just as we always have on this website, but don’t make your personal aversions everyone else’s problem. 


And yeah of course I blocked you lmfao? You’ve been blocked since I read your first comment on the matter, because I know how to manage my online space, including blocking people whose content or attitudes make me uncomfortable. Not that it made a difference in this case though, since I still got pinged by your tag, so idk what you were doing to find out that you had been blocked. 

People who are trying to purposefully evade filters to expose others to sensitive content are going to do it no matter how you define fetish. Simple as. These kinds of vagueries do NOTHING to stop the ones actually abusing the site and all they do is serve to make proper users who are TRYING TO FOLLOW GUIDELINES uncertain of their stability on the website. 

LET'S FREAKING GOOOOO

I just caught up with the comments, holy toledo lol. I'm with most people though. I hope there can be better clarification on the "fetish" rules. I have characters that are overweight, slimy, or have tentacles and I don't like the idea of living in fear that my completely non-sexual characters will get reported or deleted over this vague ruling.
Thank you staff!

YAHOO!!

wtf is happening in here lol 

celestia It's just that it's not someone else's fault if you're too stupid to filter out the content you don't like and/or support, that is your problem. Being happy that stuff you don't like is banned because you get "creeped out" by something that you're not even forced to look at is fucking crazy...

i like to play and draw

SinfulHare What I could figure out after pulling an archive screenshot of the website up, not much has changed? Outside of allowing AU characters, banning AI, and clarifying their policy on suggestive content (although we can see that it's even more confusing to a certain point)

If you, like me, are curious what exactly changed in the rules, I pulled the old rules out of the wayback machine, you can look at the differences here (the new rules are on the right):

https://www.diffchecker.com/tHfiW5Wo/

Sno_days sexual themes and nudity are not intrinsically pornographic. They have filters precisely so that people don't want to see them don't have to.

  HieroGreen yeah dude, I think the same should be said for gore and violence? Especially considering how many people out here are openly confessing to violent gore and sn*ff kinks like it's nothing to them? what's your point.

  Keileon what do you want me to say, "I'm sorry yall have a problem with me stating that there's no issue with having kinks and respecting people's boundaries by filtering them as long as they're not illegal or immoral?" cause that's what I said..

(^update, just want to mention both of these users blocked me for saying this 🤔 )

pretty sure at this point everyone already pointed out how vague the maturity filter guidelines are now, but why couldn't we get a bullet point list with updated rules, or something that tells us exactly what was changed? or at least highlight changes in the rules themselves, as not everyone will read this news post and know that something is different (I mean, we've had the "new" icon next to tag search for at least a year, why not move that to the specific updated rules to bring attention to them?)

grace period is a great idea but people still need to be properly informed before they end up in trouble because they didn't pay extremely close attention to a seasonal no-commitment game

It's also not at all unreasonable for people to, you know, use the site's built-in filtering system.

People are having a problem with posters like Celestia and Slumbrrrs because like... if you don't want to see something, you're allowed to turn your own filter on. You don't have to ban things if you use the site's features as intended. It's classic, puritanical "seeking out that which offends me" nonsense.